Is the all-new 2026 Lexus ES EV the luxury electric sedan we've been waiting for? On this week's episode we share our first impressions of the Lexus' newest electric sedan, discussing its whisper-quiet ride, comfort-first philosophy, real-world range, charging performance, interior technology, and whether it delivers a true luxury experience despite a few frustrating tech quirks. Plus, we answer a viewer question: Can you safely extend oil change intervals on a plug-in hybrid if you mostly drive in EV mode?
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SHOW NOTES
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0:00 - Intro
00:16 - First Impressions of the 2026 Lexus ES 500e
03:42 - Ride Comfort
08:13 - Interior Design
10:17 - Controls & Tech Quirks
15:07 - Rear Seat Comfort
18:07 - Real-World EV Range & Charging
20:31 - Practicality
22:22 - EV Platform Explained
23:06 - Comfort vs. Performance
26:01 - One-Pedal Driving & EV Experience
28:26 - Everyday Usability
30:40 - Safety Features
33:32 - Audience Question: Oil Changes for Plug-in Hybrids
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Test Results: 2026 Lexus ES
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/lexus/es/2026/overview/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
How to Find the Best Home EV Charger
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hybrids-evs/how-to-choose-the-best-home-wall-charger-for-your-electric-vehicle-a6908889697/EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
How Long Does It Take to Charge These Popular Electric Cars
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hybrids-evs/fastest-charging-electric-vehicles-a4112188427/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
10 Best Deals on Electric Vehicles
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hybrids-evs/best-deals-on-electric-vehicles-a1198228201/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
Most & Least Satisfying Hybrids, PHEVs, and Electric Vehicles
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/most-and-least-satisfying-electric-vehicles-and-hybrids-a2825600877/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
Popular Electric Vehicles to Avoid and What to Get Instead
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/hybrids-evs/electric-vehicles-to-avoid-and-the-evs-to-get-instead-a6654236864/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
Which Brands Make the Best Cars?
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/cars-driving/which-car-brands-make-the-best-vehicles-a6159221985/?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
5 Things to Know About Oil Changes for Your Car
https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-maintenance/things-to-know-about-oil-changes-for-your-car-a9532249359//?EXTKEY=YSOCIAL_YT
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Welcome back to the Talking Cars podcast.
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I'm Alex Isaac.
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I'm Emily Thomas and I'm Keith Barry.
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All right so on today's show we're going
to be talking about the 2026 Lexus ES.
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And I don't think there is a more,
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Consumer Reports vehicle
or very few than the Lexus ES.
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So this is an important car.
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It's historically done
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really well in our testing,
in kind of a perennial favorite for us.
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So it's a big deal
when a new one comes along.
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Today, we'll be talking specifically
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about the electric version of the EV,
which is a new thing for the s in general.
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But what we bought is a, s 500 E,
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so that kind of stands for the all wheel
drive version of the electric.
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You can also get a front wheel drive,
which we'll get into.
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Got the convenience package.
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And in the end
it came to about $54 with destination,
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which is certainly not cheap,
but kind of in line with what
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you might expect for a vehicle like this.
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So let's get into it.
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Keith, I'm going to start with you
because like I said,
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this is historically been a great car.
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Highly recommended by KR.
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Reliable owners.
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Love it. Road test pretty well.
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But you said leading up to this
that you kind of had to,
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come to terms with it, so to speak.
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So what did you have to come to
that was so nervous about this car.
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So I wrote the preview of it,
and then I started seeing photos of it.
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And then I would see 1 or 2 on the road,
and I and I and I, I so you hit a certain
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age and suddenly things start kind of the,
the world isn't for you anymore.
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And it just there's
this South Park episode about this.
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Oh there is.
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Oh, I just see I'm too old for that.
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I don't know, he's hit a certain he
I thought that age and now, you know
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like it's
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you go to a restaurant,
the music's too loud
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and everyone says welcome in instead of
just hello, I'm with you on that one.
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Yeah. And it's there's nothing wrong
with it. It's just sort of like.
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Oh, okay.
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I just it's time for me to fade
into the background slowly.
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And, and I was afraid that Lexus had sort
of, you know, from the look of it,
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they're very obviously chasing the,
you know, the model three.
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They're very obviously, you know,
they've changed out all the chrome for.
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Yeah, it was kind of traditional looking.
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And now it is not exactly, exactly.
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And the EV part I don't mind at all.
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I love the fact that you know,
this car is, is, you know, a Lexus.
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It's a, it's it's a quiet, comfy car
and it is made to be an EV or a hybrid.
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The quieter better.
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So that I was actually
I was excited about.
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But just looking at it,
it looked a little minimalist.
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I was really nervous.
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It was like, you know,
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the the menu changes
at your favorite restaurant and then and
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then the booth changed to tables
and then the lights changed to it just
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it felt like it was getting,
something good was going to change, right?
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Right. So I was nervous.
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Don't mess with you know,
what's not broken, essentially.
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Right.
It was already doing really well. So.
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And there aren't that many luxuries.
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I mean, we already lost the LS, which was
big and expensive and kind of fussy.
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You know, there aren't
that many luxury sedans out there,
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and the ones that exist
are mostly tuned for performance, right?
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Not for kind of comfort
and pushiness. Right.
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So I love this car.
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I, I know when we had the last one
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we had in the fleet,
it was signed out every long weekend.
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The one time I saw Jeff Bartlett
take a vacation, he had it out
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for his road trip.
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So yeah, exactly.
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It was the car that like
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like we put it like, please
don't put any more miles on this car.
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You know, warning on it, on it. So yeah.
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Yeah, I was I was not popular.
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Yeah. Very popular, very popular.
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Emily,
were you nervous getting into this car?
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I'm here to, either previous. Yes.
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As or just, you know, in general
going into this. This.
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Yes. For the first time, I think at first
when I found out that it was an EV,
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I was like, oh, shucks, because I was
more nervous about the range.
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Yeah. And okay.
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Oh yeah. Especially a Toyota.
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Yeah. They're not
they're not pushing the boundaries on.
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Yeah.
So when I had to have it, you know what?
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We were
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going to be having a lot of long drives
because we were going down to our church.
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That's like an hour away.
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And so I was like, man,
I'm going to have to charge it this week.
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Yeah,
I had to deal with this and like, yeah.
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So I definitely get range anxiety.
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So that part I wasn't excited about.
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So range anxiety and regular anxiety.
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Yeah. Okay.
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The combine.
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Yeah. The combine. It's just
the car is not going for that.
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That's not the right.
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No, but I will say that
I was pleasantly surprised.
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Yeah, right.
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He enjoyed the car a lot.
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All right. And,
it's quite the endorsement.
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Yeah I, I'm in that camp too,
so I guess I'll say that now.
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Yes. Yeah. Put your votes in now.
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So, yeah, we had it.
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We did a lot of driving in it.
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I found it really comfortable.
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I loved how quiet it was,
like exceptionally quiet.
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It's so quiet.
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It's. The thing that struck me right away
is especially.
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I mean, this is what, you know, you want
an EV to be like or any car to be like.
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To be frank. Yeah.
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But it's it's like taking full advantage
of the fact that it's the powertrain
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is essentially silent.
And then it's just quiet on top of that.
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And it's, it's so great for it.
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I kept driving like faster and faster
to try
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and see if I could get the wind noise
in, you know, in the house.
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I'm, I'm doing 67,
but no, but yeah, the track.
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Exactly.
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No, but every, every time
I get on the highway, I think all right.
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This is when it's going to be okay.
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This is how it's going to end. Like it
doesn't.
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The suspension is like this.
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Like distant rolling thunder somewhere.
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Like it's almost like calming.
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It's one of those cars where you you're
driving for a while, right.
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And and windows up or whatever.
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You crack that window
for the first time in.
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Let's say 30 minutes and you're like,
oh my God, it's so loud.
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Yeah.
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Like it's just the differential between
how quiet it is
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in the car with everything closed up,
and then you open the window
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and it's you kind of struck by
how loud it is.
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So it speaks how quiet it is
when everything's closed. Right. Yeah.
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I think I was telling Maddie that like,
that makes it feel luxurious to me.
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It's not like 100%
where it's just so quiet and refined,
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and the ride itself
just felt so, like, effortless.
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Like the driving. Yeah.
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So I was like,
I barely feel like I'm driving.
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Not because I'm like using
all the driver assistance, but just,
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I don't know, it's just very enjoyable.
Yeah. Yeah.
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I think yes.
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Like the anxiety is, is valid. Right.
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There are other aspects of this car
that are a lot different than maybe
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previous S's. Right.
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But I was happy to see that they stuck
to those kind of core things that make a
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this car good and then just a luxurious
experience in general quietness
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and then pretty exceptional ride quality,
which is not a given these days.
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Right. And the fit and finish too.
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I noticed it still has the Lexus thing
where you put up the, the, the window
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and it just slows.
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Yeah, up
and makes kind of a little details noise.
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Right? Right. Yeah.
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It's like a soft closed drawer cabinet.
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It feels I mean it feels like
it feels still luxurious.
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It feels like and this is you know again
you look at some other EVs out there.
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Model three.
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And you know it's it's
not the build quality.
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The silence and the suspension
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are the three things
that I would knock against it.
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Yeah. Right.
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So compared to this it's a it's a it's
a huge, huge difference.
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Right. The more time I spent with it
the more that I found.
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So first of all, we also borrowed
one from.
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Yes that's right.
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We borrowed one.
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That was the I, was it
the premium or luxury?
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What do they call it?
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The higher
it was, the higher of the two. Yeah.
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The luxury. Correct.
And it was front wheel drive.
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So it was a bit of a different experience
than the one we have.
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But the interior had that like bamboo.
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Yeah. Really cool thing.
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And that and the backlighting.
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And I thought oh this looks really nice.
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And then I got into ours and the color,
it was kind of it was a bit monochromatic.
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But y very basic.
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Yeah, very beige
and a little gray and some.
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But then I actually
you were the one who told me
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you were like, look at the actual
materials and the actual materials.
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And I got and I looked and and there's,
you know, there's interesting quilting,
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there's some soft touch surfaces,
there's that micro suede.
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And it is interesting and I think
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the time I spent in the car, you know,
so I did the first drive on it.
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Then I shot a video on it.
So I, I've spent a lot of time in it.
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And every time I got in the car,
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in this car I like I, I agree with I, it
grew on me more and more and more.
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Okay. Yeah.
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Yeah so I can't I mean first of all
I can't wait for the hybrid version.
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Yeah I know right.
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But there is one
well handle my range anxiety.
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Yeah for sure. Exactly.
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But this is what an EV is supposed to be.
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This is what a luxury EV
is supposed to be.
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I think
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even that monochromatic ness though
kind of adds to the calming effect though.
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Like it it's very like neutral tones.
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It's it's just a calming
sort of environment and just adds to that.
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So I mean it's not great if you have kids
with all those white color.
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Yeah, I can show everything, but
I don't know I it, I thought it was them.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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I just wanted I thought it was just
a really nice package all together.
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Right. Yeah.
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And I think, I don't know, it's
a smaller detail, I suppose,
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but the thing that stood out to me
is, is what you said, the microfiber,
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like the way the gauge display
is kind of set into the dash and it's like
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cut out a little bit and then you have
that microfiber kind of insert there.
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I don't know, it's unique.
I haven't really seen that before.
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So I thought it was kind of interesting
to look at and, and use,
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I think in the winter time
because we also got it's not called
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it's called that the cold,
the cold, cold weather package.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And it was so we got that as,
as most of the cars that are sent up here.
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So when we bought it anonymously,
we buy what's on the dealer lot.
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And cars that get sent to Connecticut
always have the cold weather package.
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Yeah.
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This one had something really interesting.
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It has radiant heating. That.
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Great. Right.
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From from your love for your knees.
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Yeah. Cooler box.
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And then kind of under the steering
column, trim essentially
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I think that's going
to be really interesting
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to make it really popular
this fall and winter.
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Yeah. And that's the reason that yes,
it's going to be popular here.
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Yeah. It's all of our our extra heating.
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Yeah.
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We need the
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heated steering wheel on the seats
and yeah all that that good stuff.
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Yeah.
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They have that on the RC
as the first kind of car
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to have that radiant heating,
but it wasn't very effective.
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I don't know when I tried it here.
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Granted, it's not as cold as it was
then when I tried on the RC, but
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it just seems to put off more heat,
so maybe they're kind of
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improving it over time.
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And the idea is
so that you're using more of that
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and less of the actual traditional
kind of heating system,
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which takes from your battery charge
range, your efficiency, all that stuff.
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So and yeah, and the climate
controls themselves, they were kind of
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they were kind of interesting.
Yeah, a little weird.
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They didn't look like buttons, but
they were, they were, they were buttons.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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They like wanted to follow the trend
where everything's touch capacitive
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and in the screen.
But then they didn't go all the way.
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So it's like a rubber membrane thing
that you actually press on too.
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Yeah. It's kind of I tried it first.
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I just like covered on it
and nothing happens.
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I was like, oh, okay,
I guess I yeah, which they gave me.
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Okay. Now you don't have to just press
a finger on it.
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Exactly. Press the button. Right.
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But it does feel like
every new car is a game.
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Of which is it?
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Is it touch? Is it.
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Yeah. You can't go into it expecting.
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Just do I swipe it?
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Cars are escape rooms now. Yeah. Yes.
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And we'll get we'll get to that.
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Sometimes they really are because I can't
figure out how to open the doors back up.
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And this does have the Lexus doors. Yeah.
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It has unfortunately those annoying
Lexus doors that we've talked about
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with almost every other vehicle.
Yeah. Push button.
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You got it right.
00:11:11
Yeah.
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And explain to your passengers
how to get out.
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I guess you're going to try to pull on it
and and you have to pull it real
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and you have to press it and open it
real quick in one motion.
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Otherwise it'll get stuck. Yeah, right.
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You have to press it twice
and then you have to.
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Yeah, yeah.
00:11:25
So yeah I would imagine
that these door handles also.
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But and then the controls
are part of the anxiety.
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Right. Yes.
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Exactly. Exactly.
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Although I mean I think,
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I think the perfect S was the one
that got rid of that Lexus remote touch.
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Yeah. Yeah. That.
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Yeah. Basically
that moved to the touch screen. Right.
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But this guy from the last generation
essentially.
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Exactly. Yeah. Which is actually my mother
in law has one.
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All right.
00:11:48
And just to do to my recommendation, but,
but I see a used car in your future.
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Yeah. What should I get? I well,
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but, Yeah.
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No, the, Yeah, my mom has an Avalon
hybrid, so maybe I'm a creature of habit.
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But, yeah, I would say yes.
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The,
the the infotainment system much improved.
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Much. Oh, yeah.
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Yeah,
just like icon software speaking. Right.
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Bigger screen but in not in a flashy way.
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Yeah.
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They added a home I mean Toyota's
kind of been going with this
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new infotainment system
for call it a couple years now.
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And it first showed up.
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And you know some things about it
weren't so great.
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It didn't have a home screen.
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You kind of always jump in between menus
and they've just kind of built on it
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a little bit over time
to make it easier to use.
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They're not so worried about, maybe
they copied Tesla in some other ways,
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but here things are larger,
easier to see for the most part.
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Some smaller controls. But I found it.
00:12:41
Yeah, other than Bluetooth,
which maybe we can get into that.
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But yeah. Could you connect your phone?
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Oh my goodness.
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Every single time I got into the car
I would have to tell it to connect,
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even though it was already paired
and all the things.
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And it was a very frustrating.
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I was in a Toyota that last week as well
and of the same experience.
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I'm like, I don't understand
why a car that I have paired my phone to
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you must be like convinced
to pair, like to connect again.
00:13:07
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to choose it
from the menu every single time.
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Yeah.
Which makes it really frustrating because
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that's distract me.
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Part of the simplicity of it.
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It's like, oh, I'm in the car.
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My Bluetooth side,
the car automatically connects
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and then I get halfway down the road.
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I'm like,
I guess not, I guess I know, yes.
00:13:24
I mean, it's it's
00:13:25
inexcusable in the new Rav4
where the same thing essentially happens,
00:13:28
but now you're talking about an E-s,
right? Right.
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Yeah. And a Lexus product.
And it's just it's not good.
00:13:33
I mean, yeah, I had the same thing
I iPhone.
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I had to enable CarPlay every time.
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And then if I didn't use CarPlay
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and I was just using Bluetooth,
I couldn't have a phone call.
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It's showing my phone is connected
for both audio and phone.
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You try to call somebody or they call,
you just can't hear it.
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And we have a time disconnect in and out
of these cars and delete there, there.
00:13:52
Yeah, I was the first person in the car,
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so it wasn't even like like there
it was because we used them.
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They just apparently
are struggling with that.
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And there are some reason androids,
there are people who have old iPhones,
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new iPhones.
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So we have a range of folks getting in.
00:14:06
And Toyota Lexus just can't seem to.
00:14:09
It was BMW for a while.
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It was Hyundai for a while it seems.
00:14:13
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
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It seems like it should be table stakes,
but yeah, it doesn't really
00:14:19
lend itself to a luxurious experience
when you're frustrated
00:14:21
just at connecting your phone. Right?
00:14:23
And it can be distracting too,
00:14:24
if you already have started driving
and then realize that it's
00:14:27
something's gone wrong.
00:14:28
Yeah, I know, and I liked it.
00:14:30
Most of the controls,
there were certain aspects of it
00:14:33
where I was like, why can I only access
half of the climate controls here?
00:14:38
And then I have to go into the screen for
the other half of the climate controls.
00:14:41
Yeah, right.
00:14:42
A car at this level.
00:14:45
I also kind of thought
00:14:46
that there should maybe be separate,
like rear climate controls.
00:14:50
They have this the flow thing going on.
00:14:53
And so like
I didn't realize it was set to the flow.
00:14:56
And so the kids weren't
getting any air in the back.
00:14:58
It was so hot. And I was like,
I don't understand.
00:15:00
Do you have your own panel back there?
00:15:02
Like, why is it not turning on?
00:15:03
You should have bought them
the executive pack,
00:15:05
should have bought them the executive
package, the executive children
00:15:10
that I get
around it probably is the most accurate.
00:15:13
Who got to have the the leg rest? Yeah.
00:15:15
The oldest one gets the oldest would get
the leg rest and the youngest would.
00:15:19
Yeah, we'd have it.
00:15:19
Either of you try the leg rest in the.
00:15:22
So in the borrowed one that we had right
that higher trim.
00:15:24
It had this
I think it was called the exact.
00:15:27
Yeah.
00:15:27
Packs the package
and yeah it turns the s into a
00:15:30
from a car you drive to one,
you get driven around in basically.
00:15:33
Right. And that. Right.
00:15:34
The passenger side rear seat
essentially turns into a, recliner
00:15:39
and you get controls.
00:15:40
You also get another thing I noticed
that was missing on a car
00:15:43
that cost this much, which I don't need,
00:15:45
but it's in cars that cost a lot
less is the surround view camera.
00:15:49
You have to upgrade
to get the surround view camera.
00:15:51
You just get, sensors in the front
of an electronics child door lock.
00:15:55
It's not available at 60 Grant
in this car, which I'm like,
00:15:59
I can find that in Ikea sedans.
00:16:03
So yeah, it always is confusing to me.
00:16:07
The number of luxury vehicles.
00:16:08
I don't just have that button there. Yeah.
00:16:11
And I do wonder in this particular case,
what choice is it.
00:16:14
Maybe that's one of them were made
because they're,
00:16:17
you know, an EV
is generally more expensive
00:16:19
to make because of the battery cost,
even though,
00:16:20
yes, it's going down, but it's still not
the same as making a gas or hybrid.
00:16:25
What did they have to leave out
to keep the price at $54?
00:16:28
Right? Surround view camera,
I guess maybe one of them.
00:16:31
And then some of these other things.
And the price goes
00:16:32
and you'll notice the price goes way up
totally when you start.
00:16:36
The one we borrowed was like 66.
00:16:38
Yes, that's a big jump.
00:16:40
But I will say the back seat for
00:16:42
for at least for adult passengers,
that is one of the most no matter
00:16:47
whether you get the executive or not,
that is one of the most comfortable large.
00:16:51
Yeah.
00:16:51
Back seats I can see a lot of these being
used as like an Uber black or, or for,
00:16:56
you know, black car services.
00:16:57
Taxi I mean high end livery services.
00:17:00
Well, they added, if I remember
reading it properly they, they added
00:17:04
quite a bit to the wheelbase. Right. Yeah.
00:17:08
The car is a half inch.
Yeah. It's quite a bit bigger.
00:17:10
That's a good point.
And it's also taller. Right.
00:17:13
And particularly this EV where
you got to sit on a battery pack right.
00:17:16
Yeah.
00:17:17
You look at the car and in isolation
I guess a sedan, then you park
00:17:21
it next to maybe the old s
or something like that
00:17:23
and you're like, oh,
this thing actually is quite a bit taller.
00:17:25
You sit higher.
00:17:26
Kind of reminds me of the crown, right?
00:17:28
The Toyota Crown,
where it's like this weird in between,
00:17:31
kind of car, SUV type thing,
driving position.
00:17:34
So I don't know if you found it to be
a little different in that way to drive,
00:17:38
but I did feel from a driving position
standpoint,
00:17:41
sitting a little higher up
wasn't wasn't a bad thing, right?
00:17:43
Better visibility in the glass area in
this car is quite good.
00:17:46
Yeah. Easy to get in and out of right.
Yeah. Yeah.
00:17:49
All around between the accents,
the comfort.
00:17:51
Like the overall experience.
00:17:54
I think it would be a great car
for like when my parents
00:17:58
retire and they, you know, need something
comfortable to get around in.
00:18:02
I think it would probably be one of the
few EVs my mom would actually consider.
00:18:06
She's really EV. Sure.
00:18:08
Okay. Maybe the hybrid, right?
00:18:10
Yeah. See, when we test that, we'll see.
00:18:12
But like you know, overall
just it's comfortable.
00:18:15
And even though I have the range
anxiety with this car, I was surprised
00:18:20
I was able to do I felt like it handled,
00:18:23
everything very efficiently.
00:18:26
Like I still had
a surprising amount of range left over.
00:18:29
It is an efficient, vehicle, right?
00:18:32
I mean, we talked about the wind noise
early on, and, and you and I talked
00:18:35
about too, about the numbers on paper
don't look that impressive, right.
00:18:40
But when it comes to actual chart,
like it.
00:18:42
No, it can't do
350 kilowatt charging, right.
00:18:45
No it can't.
00:18:47
But when you charge it at home, it's
actually pretty fast.
00:18:50
Yeah, it is competitive at home.
00:18:51
You can plug into a Tesla Supercharger
00:18:53
and put on more miles
than like a BMW or an Audi EV.
00:18:57
It's basically only slower than what?
00:18:59
Like Kia
and Hyundai and Genesis and Tesla.
00:19:02
Yeah, yeah, some of the yeah.
00:19:03
In terms of in the way
we're looking at this as you'll see.
00:19:06
And Lexus is guilty of it too.
00:19:08
A lot of these companies are advertising
basically the rate of charging rate.
00:19:12
You see you'll see 250 kilowatt
or 400 for some of these new EVs.
00:19:15
And this one's 150. Yeah.
00:19:17
So it's lower.
00:19:18
But that's like half
the story is what we tend to say.
00:19:21
Because you're not really
that doesn't tell you
00:19:23
how many miles of range you're getting for
however long you sit on the charger.
00:19:26
Right.
00:19:26
So it's the rate of charging combined
with the efficiency
00:19:29
tells you basically how quickly
you're going to add miles to the car.
00:19:31
So at 150 might be a little lower.
00:19:33
But because the powertrain
is relatively efficient,
00:19:35
you're going to add miles,
relatively quickly.
00:19:38
So it's to your point on paper,
maybe it doesn't look so special.
00:19:41
But it is competitive.
00:19:43
But the range is they're using the same,
actually, presumably,
00:19:47
the same battery pack as,
like the Toyota BZ
00:19:49
and some of these other EVs
that are in the Toyota Lexus family.
00:19:53
So when you compare it to, like,
00:19:55
a, Tesla or something else,
they're definitely not as competitive.
00:19:59
I mean, 270 something miles of range. Yes.
00:20:01
Yeah.
00:20:02
It's just not really pushing the
the envelope at this point.
00:20:05
It did tell me that I could have
more range if I turned off my climate.
00:20:09
Yeah.
00:20:09
And that was right there. Very.
00:20:11
I was like this one.
00:20:13
Yeah, I know that's not realistic.
00:20:15
I will save myself or I'll eat those
extra 20 miles so I can't keep my AC on.
00:20:22
Yeah.
00:20:22
And it's not so much of an issue
around town or if you're charging at home,
00:20:26
but it's those longer trips and,
you know, like you experienced.
00:20:29
So that's
where the hybrid is going to be key.
00:20:32
What about you? You don't have to, do you?
00:20:35
Or if you don't frequently
do like long road trips,
00:20:38
then this could be a good option for you.
00:20:39
Otherwise, maybe wait for the hybrid
or a second car you can have.
00:20:44
And the other thing
you might need a second car
00:20:45
because of the fact
some of the cargo issues.
00:20:48
It has this nice big wide trunk.
00:20:50
But this is a Lexus S thing.
00:20:51
And we asked Toyota, what is this
they don't have?
00:20:55
It's the rear seats don't fold down.
Oh yeah. They were like, it's a choice.
00:20:58
We made a brand promise or some,
you know, corporate e's that they said
00:21:02
to give me less like, yeah, what is the
what I've heard sort of like.
00:21:06
And this is just rumors.
00:21:07
I have no idea but it that it has
something to do with getting the car
00:21:10
to be that quiet
and getting sort of the envy down.
00:21:13
Okay. All right.
00:21:14
That are some bracing
or there's something there behind the seat
00:21:18
that if you had the seats
fold down, it's a, it's a structural
00:21:23
I mean yeah, that that area back
there is a,
00:21:25
you have a better big reason for your,
torsional stiffness in a car.
00:21:29
But in a car like this, I don't think
you're so worried about that.
00:21:32
But, yeah, maybe it does help
with transmitting vibrations.
00:21:35
And if you can make that panel back there
really thick or something.
00:21:38
Right. But they were like,
we don't want to talk about it.
00:21:39
It's like, this is a choice that it's
like all of a sudden it went to like,
00:21:43
you know, defense mode for defense.
00:21:44
Yeah. You're like, this is a choice
we've made and we're sticking to it.
00:21:47
And we're like, okay, okay,
there is a ski pass through.
00:21:50
There is. And then also there's no frunk.
00:21:53
So you are losing out on frunk space
because this is that shared platform
00:21:57
that the hybrid's going to come out with.
00:21:58
And there's going to
there's going to be a gas engine up there.
00:22:01
Yeah. And that's really interesting.
00:22:02
I mean I think that's
a really good thing to be aware of
00:22:05
is that the seats don't fold down
if it does truly enable the quietness.
00:22:08
Personally, I'll take the trade off
because I mean,
00:22:11
but if your parents are buying Ikea
and they're getting a very long flat pack
00:22:15
something. Yeah,
they're great trailer kids.
00:22:17
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you need
another vehicle, but another vehicle.
00:22:20
Yeah.
00:22:20
The, the fact that they're,
00:22:22
they're putting the I'm going to nerd out
for just a second.
00:22:24
The fact that they're putting
the torsional stiffness wasn't the being,
00:22:26
you know, we're just getting started.
00:22:28
No, no, no, the, this is the first time
00:22:31
they're putting an EV
into what they call the Tnga.
00:22:34
Okay.
00:22:35
Like the Camry, right? Awesome.
00:22:36
Oh, I see the Rav4. Right?
00:22:38
They've so far and we don't really know
the full extent of the differences,
00:22:41
but something like the Solterra
and the the BCR
00:22:45
on a dedicated EV platform,
whereas this is technically not.
00:22:49
It's shared.
00:22:49
And a lot of automakers are doing this
right, because especially here in the US,
00:22:52
we can't make up our mind
and what kind of powertrains we want
00:22:55
or what
the future holds. We need options, Alex.
00:22:57
You do. And options are good.
Options are good.
00:22:59
But yeah, it's just kind of interesting
that they are going
00:23:02
the flexible route
hybrid and electric same vehicle platform.
00:23:06
It's kind of happening
for the first time on this. Yes.
00:23:08
The rest of the driving experience
00:23:09
I think is is interesting
from a handling perspective.
00:23:12
I had some issues with it a little bit.
00:23:15
I'm not sure what you you both felt about
the handling, steering, things like that.
00:23:19
You loved it, I really did.
00:23:21
I like it, should I have no no I, I did I
yeah I just found it really comfortable.
00:23:28
I thought it handled
well for like what I needed. Yeah.
00:23:31
It's pretty easy to drive right.
00:23:32
I mean, yeah, well, we're steering effort.
00:23:34
I think it in that way fits the bill.
00:23:36
Yeah, right.
00:23:36
And, I don't know,
00:23:37
maybe that's just the thing in general
that I typically like about Toyota
00:23:41
and Lexus vehicles.
00:23:42
It's like the,
the steering isn't really heavy
00:23:44
because that tends to be, kind of a
like a literal pain point for me.
00:23:49
Yeah. I vehicles,
I have tendonitis in my wrists.
00:23:52
And so a heavy steering
just means that at the end of the trip,
00:23:55
I am going to be in pain
and it's not going to be enjoyable.
00:23:59
So worth it. Yeah.
00:24:00
So I found it to be really comfortable
because it was light enough.
00:24:04
It was what I needed.
00:24:05
It wasn't so much where I'm just like,
okay,
00:24:07
we're just flopping all over the place,
but right, right, right.
00:24:10
But it was
it was kind of a sweet spot for me.
00:24:11
So I did find it very comfortable.
00:24:13
And overall
just my body felt good afterwards,
00:24:15
which is okay when I hear that. Yeah,
yeah for sure.
00:24:18
I think it's definitely a Lexus
knowing the audience of the vehicle
00:24:22
because the complaints when I, you know,
00:24:24
when I talked to all the folks
who'd been in the car.
00:24:26
So again, I really enjoyed it.
00:24:28
I noticed some, you know, that
00:24:30
it was definitely it was interesting
because some aspects of it,
00:24:34
it felt a little bit,
a little confused around the edges.
00:24:39
Yeah. In terms. Okay.
00:24:40
But if you were to drive it
like a performance car,
00:24:43
you would get some really fun.
00:24:46
Yeah. Folks
who I spoke with. Yeah. Who drove it.
00:24:48
There was mixed reviews in the logbook.
Yeah.
00:24:51
I mean, it's it's very much
set up to be comfort.
00:24:54
Yes. Oriented like we talked about. Right.
00:24:55
So yeah, you start hustling it or driving
it really quickly
00:24:58
and yeah, you're going to notice
high rates of body roll
00:25:00
and it doesn't necessarily
feel engaging and sporty.
00:25:03
My I guess less of an issue with that
because that's just not what the car is
00:25:07
trying to do.
00:25:09
But they put
00:25:10
in the steering is light, like you
said, Emily, but it's also very quick.
00:25:13
So like the ratio is quick.
00:25:14
So it felt like it was almost too easy
to put in very much effort.
00:25:18
Yeah. Like too much steering.
00:25:20
Like a little a little on the twitchy
or a little on the twitchy
00:25:23
or I expect with something
with some more resistance.
00:25:26
Correct. Yeah.
So it just made it like on the highway.
00:25:29
It could have been a little bit more of a
relaxed experience for me if it was able
00:25:33
to just not focus
so much on the inputs for so Town Car,
00:25:37
you just go maybe,
maybe the executive version.
00:25:40
Yeah. Maybe they slow down
in the executive actually. Yes.
00:25:42
And you know, you sit in the back.
00:25:45
You're right, you're right.
Why would I drive?
00:25:46
We all need a couple of promotions. Yeah.
And then we get there and then we
00:25:50
driven around the estate.
00:25:51
It'll be great. Right?
00:25:52
The other thing
00:25:53
I want to mention quick, before we move on
is the lack of one pedal driving.
00:25:57
And I know that's, maybe.
00:25:59
Fine. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:01
Okay. I'll let you.
00:26:03
I think it's interesting
that they don't even have it as an option.
00:26:06
Right.
00:26:06
Like,
yeah, make it able to be turned off 110%.
00:26:09
You don't want to force somebody
to use it.
00:26:11
Some of the better EVs at this point.
00:26:13
They just make it easy to turn on
or turn off.
00:26:15
Yeah.
00:26:15
Tesla, Rivian, those they just force
you into it all the time.
00:26:19
But, they don't have it at all.
00:26:20
So you can change the region
using the paddles and things like that,
00:26:23
but it'll never bring you,
to a complete stop.
00:26:26
Yeah, but but maybe to your point, Keith,
this is where they know their audience.
00:26:31
You know, maybe the demographic
that's buying this doesn't want.
00:26:35
Yeah,
they want the more traditional. Yeah.
00:26:37
You know, the one pedal drive.
00:26:38
I personally don't love one pedal drive.
00:26:40
I think one of the things I liked
00:26:41
most about this car experience was that
it didn't feel like an EV to me.
00:26:45
Yeah, yeah.
00:26:46
You know, minus the quietness
and like the isolation part.
00:26:49
But I was like, oh great, I have time.
00:26:51
Forgot that I was driving on TV.
Yeah, right.
00:26:53
Except for when I looked at the range.
00:26:56
So. And how quick it was.
00:26:57
Yeah.
00:26:58
It's quick.
00:26:58
It's very it's not like pin
you to your seat.
00:27:01
Quick. Right, right. It's quick.
00:27:03
The the front wheel drive one
we borrowed was less quick.
00:27:06
Less quick for sure.
00:27:08
So that is you're going to want
the dual motor if you want to.
00:27:11
Yeah.
00:27:11
Yeah yeah.
00:27:12
So I guess the point is
is like if you're looking for
00:27:14
maybe you're already in an EV,
you're in a model three
00:27:16
going into something like this, you
00:27:18
it's going to be different
than what you're used to.
00:27:20
Your first EV probably won't care so much.
00:27:22
We keep kind of reiterating, though,
that this is an EV that is tuned
00:27:27
for comfort
100% for a luxury, not performance.
00:27:31
So if you're coming from
something like a Tesla or a Rivian, where
00:27:36
like you want that performance aspect,
this is probably not the car for you.
00:27:40
Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:41
I think you just kind of have to bucket
them.
00:27:43
Not all EVs are the same. Right.
00:27:45
And you just need to understand
that nuance here for sure.
00:27:48
There's some point.
00:27:49
There's a lot of like
look what we can do with EVs.
00:27:52
And usually that's about kind of dumb
00:27:55
things or things that are no great things,
or it's showing off
00:27:59
because you have more power to use
for more features.
00:28:02
So you, you put, you know,
but I think what Lexus said was, look,
00:28:06
look at how the look, what we can do
is to look at how quiet it can be.
00:28:09
Yeah. I love it for that. Yeah, yeah.
00:28:12
And that's great.
00:28:12
By the way, did you use the paddles at all
for the, for the,
00:28:15
the region to change the region?
00:28:16
Because I love that. No,
I didn't this time.
00:28:19
I have in the past,
but I, I was comfortable where I was,
00:28:23
I was like, I just,
I like to get in and drive it.
00:28:26
Yeah. Yes.
Basically I really did. Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:28
And that's good.
00:28:29
I know
we haven't gotten outside the car yet,
00:28:31
but the getting in was so satisfying
for me because I could open the door.
00:28:36
Oh yes.
00:28:37
Because the door handles didn't have to,
you know, do a whole song and dance before
00:28:41
part of the look what we can
do. Right? Right.
00:28:43
Yes, yes.
00:28:44
I got to the car
and I didn't have to think extra hard
00:28:48
about how to open the door
and say any magical chance to
00:28:52
for the car to release itself to me.
00:28:54
So I was very excited. It's
a very low bar.
00:28:57
I fully accept that,
except that it's not even that
00:29:00
fully normal door handle, but
I didn't have to wait for it to pop out.
00:29:04
I didn't have to stay open Sesame
like it was great for me.
00:29:07
I was like, yes, there's like, there's an
electronic kind of pad underneath.
00:29:11
It's like,
BMW does have something similar.
00:29:13
It's it's electronic, but it's it's hidden
and it's always available.
00:29:18
Right? Yeah.
00:29:18
And there's also this kind of weird thing.
00:29:20
And I went through the owner's manual
about this.
00:29:22
So if the battery dies,
there is a way to get into the car.
00:29:26
You have to pull this,
this sort of cover back
00:29:29
and take, key out of the,
out of the keyfob. Yes.
00:29:33
There's a traditional keyfob
that you get with a car,
00:29:36
not a, you know, Thank you, thank you.
00:29:39
Yes, but it it isn't something
that like, say, you know, God forbid
00:29:44
something is is wrong and a firefighter
needs to get in in a flash.
00:29:48
Yeah.
00:29:48
This is more of,
the battery's dead, and it's.
00:29:51
I'm. I'm parked somewhere, and
I have to get into the vehicle to tow it.
00:29:55
Right.
00:29:55
It's a little more involved
because at least it's there.
00:29:58
At least it's to the bar.
00:30:00
Yeah, it's,
you know, taking what we can get.
00:30:03
Yeah. I do appreciate it.
00:30:04
They, they've since these door
handle types first showed up on like the
00:30:08
and some of the the
maybe there was always this little delay.
00:30:11
So you would pull that pad
that you're talking about
00:30:13
and then I mean the shape was different
but you pull it and then like the door.
00:30:16
Yeah. And then, then it would release.
00:30:17
It was always this
like kind of two stage thing.
00:30:19
They seem to have made it quicker.
00:30:21
So you just pull it and it opens, right?
00:30:23
Yeah.
00:30:23
Again the bar is low, the door opens
when you pull, the door opens.
00:30:28
They move.
00:30:28
Yeah.
00:30:29
So anyway, so the the s, I'm
pretty interested to see how it'll test
00:30:33
when it goes through the full program.
Right. The last one scored really well.
00:30:36
So we'll see kind of how this one does.
00:30:38
So definitely check that out.
00:30:40
As it moves through the process,
not to be remiss as a safety person
00:30:44
to say that it does come
00:30:45
standard, equipped with all the key
safety features that we like to see.
00:30:49
You happier, automatic emergency
braking with pedestrian detection
00:30:53
and higher risk cable, blind spot
warning, rear cross traffic warning.
00:30:56
It's got their whole,
you know, safety state of things.
00:31:00
And the latest version,
I think it was like plus 4.0.
00:31:04
And I was like, oh snap, double deal.
00:31:05
It has it has the rear seat safety
features that I like to see as well.
00:31:09
Belt minders.
00:31:10
And if trip reminder, those outboard
seating positions have advanced seatbelt
00:31:14
technology, sorry, torso airbags.
00:31:16
So you get a lot of bang for your buck
00:31:18
when it comes to safety,
which I'm always really happy to see.
00:31:21
Do you wish that they had
put that surround view camera?
00:31:23
Because that's always helpful to have,
but overall very pleased.
00:31:26
Yeah, it's interesting
you say bang for your buck
00:31:29
because that was kind of where I was
thinking with this car and not to say
00:31:32
that $54 is inexpensive by any means,
00:31:35
but just thinking about
00:31:36
what you're getting for the money
in terms of that luxurious experience
00:31:39
and the EV nature of it
and the safety equipment, somehow in 2026,
00:31:44
it felt like a pretty good value
at $54.
00:31:47
Until you remember that
the last generation, this one starts at
00:31:50
just under 50.
00:31:51
The last generation started at
just under 44.
00:31:54
Yeah,
that's a huge difference. That number.
00:31:56
So this vehicle's made in the, in Fukuoka
plant in in Japan.
00:32:01
And I just saw a study that came across
about the average cost of,
00:32:06
what tariffs have added to new vehicles,
is, is on average
00:32:11
and it depends on the country,
but it's in the thousands.
00:32:14
And we look at that
we look at other costs rising.
00:32:17
We look at and and we see cheese.
00:32:19
This is this is a lot.
00:32:21
You know
00:32:22
if there's it has to be cost cutting on
I mean it's cost cutting on everything.
00:32:25
Yeah sure.
00:32:25
But cost cutting on a $54 vehicle
and you're moving up an income bracket
00:32:31
when you're going from 40,
you know, 44, 44, 45 to 50.
00:32:37
Yeah.
00:32:38
But yeah, it's for 54.
00:32:41
It's it's it's, it's a luxury car
that if you can afford it, it's,
00:32:45
you don't have to feel guilty,
I don't think. Right, right.
00:32:48
And at least the cost cutting didn't
come at the cost of safety.
00:32:52
Yes. Quietness of like that experience.
00:32:56
Now, removal
of all controls on the inside.
00:32:58
Yes, yes, yes. So.
00:33:00
But we'll see where the hybrid lands too.
00:33:02
Right. We'll test that too.
00:33:03
And this is kind of lagging a little bit
in terms of being available.
00:33:06
But we'll get one of those also.
And it's actually a little more expensive.
00:33:08
The hybrid interestingly
yes is than the base EV right.
00:33:12
So that's interesting.
Not the normal trend.
00:33:15
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:17
All right.
00:33:17
Why don't we move on
to audience questions.
00:33:20
And just a reminder, send your questions
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00:33:25
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00:33:28
Which is pretty awesome.
00:33:29
So you're wearing some of the
I am wearing some of the swag.
00:33:32
Is that on purpose?
Are you modeling it for. That's right.
00:33:34
Audience. It's not my.
00:33:36
Yes that's right.
It'll be a t shirt or something else.
00:33:38
I actually didn't get this at work.
You had to send in a question.
00:33:41
This is my question
I got to send. Yeah. Okay.
00:33:44
That's good. Yeah.
00:33:45
Okay.
00:33:46
So John from Palmer Lake, Colorado,
00:33:50
he says for my 2025 Volvo Xc60, T8,
00:33:54
gv Volvo recommends
a 10 mile oil change interval.
00:33:59
If half the miles I put on
the X 60 are in pure
00:34:02
electric mode,
would the 10 mile oil change interval
00:34:06
effectively be a 20
mile interval on the gas engine?
00:34:10
Do the math first.
00:34:11
Do the math. Yeah, essentially.
00:34:13
Can I stretch my oil change
on my plug in hybrid if I do?
00:34:17
A lot of my driving in electric
mode is what this this person's asking.
00:34:20
Totally. See where they're coming from.
00:34:22
That is a logical thought
process in question.
00:34:26
And also asking is it is the gas
engine waiting too long for.
00:34:31
Because if he's only doing it
00:34:32
every 10 miles, could that be wait,
no, I did the math backwards.
00:34:36
Yeah,
00:34:38
well, I mean, to your point was why
you're an engineer and I'm a writer, but.
00:34:41
Yes, yes. Let's see.
I haven't answered the question.
00:34:43
Yes. 10
miles can seem like a long time.
00:34:47
Also, depending on,
00:34:49
you know, the car you're coming from,
some of these oil change intervals
00:34:51
just in general are being stretched
further and further.
00:34:54
But, generally the answer to
this question is no.
00:34:58
So, first of all, with any car
and this Volvo Xc60
00:35:03
as well,
the oil change interval is not, random.
00:35:06
They are choosing this for a reason.
00:35:08
And it's not the same in the RV
as it is in the regular Volvo.
00:35:12
XY 60.
00:35:14
So they,
00:35:15
you know, the systems in the car,
the engines designed differently
00:35:17
for a plug
in hybrid application than otherwise.
00:35:20
So this 10 mile recommendation
that they have is specific to your car.
00:35:24
So I would follow it.
00:35:25
General rule of thumb, but, the reason
I wouldn't go longer is because oil ages.
00:35:30
Also, mileage is one thing, but,
the kind of rule of thumb
00:35:34
and I talked to my crossing about
this is about a year, right?
00:35:36
That's why they put a date
on the little sticker in addition to a.
00:35:39
Not exactly. It's just like tires, right?
00:35:41
You can whichever comes first.
Yeah, exactly.
00:35:43
You can age your tires by putting
00:35:45
a certain amount of miles on them,
00:35:46
or they can just get old
and then they need replacing.
00:35:48
And the same really goes for oil too.
00:35:49
So, about a year and then just thinking
about plug in hybrids specifically,
00:35:53
they're, they're environment if you will,
or use cases a little bit different.
00:35:58
Right.
00:35:58
You're a lot of the times
if you are driving around in electric
00:36:02
only mode, the way
a lot of these plug in hybrids work is
00:36:05
when you need the full power of the system
and you stomp on the accelerator pedal.
00:36:08
That engine kind of wakes up
and adds itself to the situation.
00:36:12
So it can go from being pretty cold
to being on and revving really high
00:36:17
all of a sudden. Right?
00:36:18
Which is a stressful situations
designed for it.
00:36:20
But that can place,
00:36:22
you know, the oil under a certain
situation then, maybe otherwise.
00:36:26
So, oil changes, generally speaking.
00:36:29
Not really the place to skimp.
00:36:30
So I would follow your recommendation.
00:36:33
And especially the one specifically
for your vehicle.
00:36:36
Right.
00:36:36
The recommendation
00:36:37
that's there in your manual is specific
to the powertrain that you have.
00:36:41
It's not it's not like
a blanket recommendation for all Volvos.
00:36:45
Sure. So yeah, I think it's important.
00:36:48
This is a place to trust
on the manufacturer recommendation.
00:36:51
Yeah.
00:36:51
And and not a place to
I mean, I'm not saying
00:36:54
oil changes are inexpensive these days,
especially on a premium vehicle,
00:36:58
but, in the grand scheme of things,
you don't want to cause damage.
00:37:01
Derringer,
because you try to stretch your oil
00:37:03
or oil, stretch your gas tank
instead by driving more efficiently.
00:37:07
All right.
00:37:07
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